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Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.05.26 14:36:00 - [1] Originally by: Matrix Skye Edited by: Matrix Skye on 26/05/2008 13:08:55 Originally by: Rawr Cristina It IS technically an exploit, a result of the Microwarpdrive not actually deactivating till the end of it's cycle when you cloak, allowing someone to activate both modules at once and still recieve a healthy speed boost. I'd love to hear an official CCP stance on this. But it ISN'T technically an exploit. CCP has said no such thing. For all we know it's working as intended. And suggesting someone ask a friend to jump ahead for every low sec jump in low sec is unrealistic and ridiculous. You might say we only need to ask for those low sec jumps that are usually camped. But we all know once that catches on the lazy cry rats will just move one low sec jump away. Lazy cry rats have it way too easy in Eve. And they want to play Eve on easy mode. They cry every time their easy cash cows are made challenging. When in reality gate camping is easier, profitable, and even more mind-numbingly boring than any PVE profession. The cry rats are the true carebears of Eve. Right now the Risk VS. Rewards on gate camping is out of whack and needs to be balanced with a reasonable solution. Not any of this 'alt scout' or 'use a friend every time you jump' bull**** solution. There needs to be a realistic and reasonable solution. If Eve is becoming too hard a game for the cry rats maybe they should go camp spawn points in a easy FPS. Eve certainly doesnt seem like it's cut out for them. Eve should be hard for all players. Why should they get a break from this cold hard place? tee hee - he said 'cry rats' SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.05.29 03:07:00 - [2] Originally by: Matrix Skye If you're not catching most of your prey on the other side of the gate you, sir, are full of fail . It sounds to me like your gang of campers are totally clueless in running camps. Not my fault. I'll give you a small hint though: Use an inty or two . WTB: Sentry proof inty SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.05.30 06:26:00 - [3] Originally by: Matrix Skye And Le Skunk, Don't even get me started on how much crying you do in the forums. You always threaten you'll leave the game if "such and such" isn't fixed to your liking. But you're still here... crying . Everything carebear to you is an exploit. Nothing you ever did, do, and will do ever is an exploit . But yes, you're just a low sec liberator . Lol I like this thread. Just to clarify though: Cant remember threatening to leave the game. Nothing ive ever done has been an exploit or has subsequently been judged to be an exploit AFAIK. And im glad you admit I am not a pierat. SKUNK Oh btw why dont you call someone a lie-rat, when they are not telling the truth. That would be "weally fwunny"
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.05.31 05:17:00 - [4] On Behalf of the CSM i proclaim this thread...... OVER. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.01 21:11:00 - [5] Edited by: Le Skunk on 01/06/2008 21:14:54 Point on your BS in a gang is in my mind very usefull. Often you get 5 or 6 ships come though at once. Often they deagress and jump back though gates, leaving your hic stranded with aggression. Sometimes the hic will die - or be forced to jump, sometimes the hic pilot will be taking a **** or docking for cap/rapairs/ammo. Points on your BS will all cover a lot of these situations. The ecm though is a bit odd - i would prefer a sensor booster and get my ships firing 7 seconds earlier, but I suppose if you have 5 bs all with an ecm your gonna be pulling off a few jams here and there. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.19 11:28:00 - [6] Edited by: Le Skunk on 19/06/2008 11:30:16 Originally by: Koldz I am cool with them changing this mechanic. To be honest. The only PVP I really regard as.. worthwhile is Blockade Running. But to each his own. However, if we were going for a realism.. point of view... It is low sec space. But any 'Faction' with the ability to put big jump gates at a choke point.. would also put the biggest guns in the universe to make sure people behaved. I mean.. I am talking BIG. Think of it this way. All of us pilots... were are basically civil ians who at best are given liscence to go about armed, and privateer or whatever. But... the powers that be get PAID for the use of those Jump Gates. And.. when You mess with somethings money like that, you see a change pretty quick. I ono This is just my two cents. Koldz Well, although its pretty annoying and theres some minor grumbling, it has been argued that this is what the ship was diesgned for... running blockades. When one of the slowest ships in the game does it however, its a different matter. This thread cam up a while back when i could be bothered to argue in it. All the 'pirates' who told me it could easily be countered "use remote sensor boost stupid" "use bumper ship silly" I noted, and took my alt in a DOMINIX (mmm speedy ship) down to their areas and ran some of the most pro low sec camps in the game with no problems. When you have a combat fit lumbering dominix flying at will through 12 man, remote sensor boosted hic and inty bump ship prepared gate camps, then something is unbalanced.. this is self evident, and "wahh wahh cry rat" rants aside, any reasonable person would agree. In fact, for my own amusement, I popped up to the faction warfare regions, and have been soloing up there using the cloak mwd technique. My intention was to ram the exploit into the face of all the bears who have been defending it. I think as people have it used against them, they realise what an exploit it is. I encourage people to petition me in local as I do it - with the hoping that CCP might get fed up with petition 100001. The fact of the matter is there is actually no reason for any ship to EVER get tackled at all in low sec. The more people abuse this in the faction warfare areas, the more a wide variety of players will be getting **ed off it with... the likeley CCP are to break their chronic lack of inertia and do something. SIMPLE SOLUTION: Remove the HIC infinity point (who asked for this btw ccp), make stabs worthwhile again, dont let the cloak activate if mwd is on** SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.19 13:24:00 - [7] Edited by: Le Skunk on 19/06/2008 13:25:57 Edited by: Le Skunk on 19/06/2008 13:24:31 Originally by: TacticalOfficer Gibbs .... warp bubble ..... Lowsec = no warp bubble Originally by: TacticalOfficer Gibbs Or how about trying to use a warp bubble for what would be a better tactic and setting it up between gates in the middle of no where so people drop out of warp nowhere near a gate? I'm sure that's what CCP had in mind Assuming you mean 0.0 - Dosent work mid warp NEXT! SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.19 18:03:00 - [8] Edited by: Le Skunk on 19/06/2008 18:03:56 Originally by: TacticalOfficer Gibbs Yes i know a warp bubble doesn't work in lowsec. but isn't that one of the main reasons people are doing the cloak + MWD tactic? or did you just skip half of the thread. People are using it in low sec to be untacklable. I fly my LUMBERING GREAT BIG battleship around low sec, and interceptors cannot tackle me I am fully combat fit, I can fly where i want through pro gatecamps and they cannot stop me. This is patently unbalanced. Battleships are not supposed to insta warp thought gatecamps like a frigate. CCP should just go the whole hog and institute a pvp flag in low sec /pvpflag off SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 00:57:00 - [9] Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 00:58:43 Originally by: Koldz I am not going to post my numbers. But.. I was playing in EFT.. and I fitted an interceptor out... and between getting remote boosted and adding a sensor boost.... I was having NO issues getting points on.. anything I tried it on. Maybe its time to let those skills cook a bit. Thats not a flame. I realize its **ing people off. But.. maybe.. just give it a thought, break out EFT, and try to get some numbers in. I would be down to hook you up in game. Just drop me a line. I wouldn't go out on a patrol without a godly point man who was a fast ass quick shot. And I wouldn't sit on a gate camp in EVE without a fast ass locker in an interceptor. Koldz PS. Still think you have the most godly pvp name ever, Skunk Skunk. LOL, why thank ye very much And its been tested with an inty with over 6k scan res (i forget exact figure). It is impossible** to lock someone performing this correctly. If there was a way to combat this, we would have done it. This is the 7th or 8th thread someone has posted and each thread has about 15 people all posintg use a sensor boosted inty to get a lock on. Done this with 6k+ interceptor. Dosent work Drop cans to uncloak the target Exploit - Bannable Use an inty to uncloak the target As soon as he cloaks your inty insta decelerates and has to be manualy sped up. By the time youve done this he has warped. This has been tested with a 26km per second ares. CCP dont care, wont fix it, so these threads are pointless. Ive become resigned to how incompetent and uncarring ccp are. Ive run my alt though the camps of anyone whos suggested they can stop it. Ive run my alt though 100 man gate camps in faction warfare. Baring a fluke can uncloak/lag/big fat finger syndrome (which occasionally happens ofc) you are not tacklable in low sec. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 10:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Space Wanderer I have been in favor of many changes in favor to pvpers, including the introduction of HICs, but I really wish people asking for "easy fixes" would take a larger view before starting complaining. For example they don't realize that if the cloak+warp gets nerfed, everybody going in lowsec will just adapt starting using recons. At least the cloak+mwd is not invincible, and the guy using it may make mistakes. I guess you people prefer trying to catch a force recon? You show a complete lack of understanding here. Force recons are DESIGNED to be able to operate behind enemy lines, to breeze through gate camps, to warp cloaked. This is their role. If somebody breezes through my camp in a force recon then good on him. The ships advantages in ease of travel are countered by its low dps, crabby tank etc. Likewise if a blockade runner gets through, im not to bothered. This is the role of the ship. Its agility is countered by its lack of cargo, no dps, no tank. A COMBAT FIT BATTLESHIP - IS NOT DESIGNED AND WAS NEVER INTENDED TO FLY AT WILL THOUGH A CAMP Its one of the most lumbering slow ass ships in the game, it can pump out massive damage, and has one of the best tanks in the game. You wish people would take a look at the larger view? I have taken a look at the larger view. If everybody in the game does this (as i encourage them to) then you have a game where nobody can be tackled in low sec. A PVP flag in lowsec. Which isnt what eve is about. Is it? SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:07:00 - [11] Originally by: arbalesttom Originally by: Le Skunk Use an inty to uncloak the target As soon as he cloaks your inty insta decelerates and has to be manualy sped up. By the time youve done this he has warped. This has been tested with a 26km per second ares. Try harder next time, completely bull** the target warped before your inty pilot should be at the place he cloaked. The mwd is on for 10 seconds, and your telling me a 26km/s inty cant do a max distance of 30km within those 10 seconds? Lawls Your -0.5 sec rating and 100 kills proves you to be an expert in low sec camping eh? As discussed if you click approach the ship insta decelerates as he cloaks and you lose alignment So you have to manually double click roughly in front of an icon you get a brief glimpse of and pray he heads roughly in the direction you are going. Assuming you fluke it, the time it takes you to accelerate, the delay on the uncloak, and the delay in being able to lock, and the module lag means the ship is home free. In fact, this trick actualy works BETTER if you have crap skills which make the duration of the mwd burst less** are you telling me CCP meant this module to be used this way and implemented a skill which it profits you NOT TO TRAIN? SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:22:00 - [12] Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 11:25:28 Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 11:24:42 Originally by: Tzar'rim While you have a point Skunk, to me if you want to beat some sense into game mechanics lets start on nano ships first. So if you fly a nano yourself then your whole "this is not right!" post is moot :P I don't really have much of a position on the nano ships. Despite what people say, nano ships are not nigh on invulnerable in the way that the cloak mwd exploit makes ships. I really don't mind ships being hard to catch on gate camps. Nanofwags are hard to catch sure, but if you assemble a good team and spend some isk, you can get them. After seeing a lot of nanofags breeze through our camps, we had a think, I invested 1 billion isk on a lachesis with dual domination webs (overloaded) scan res rigs, shadow serp sensor boosters and a faction tank etc. This enables you to insta double web a fwag at range, with a long range point if he coasts out of range, which enables your gang to get the extra couple of hits on him. A neut boat in your gang normally prevents this though. A quick look on my killboard shows ive kiled 30 ishtars, 25 vagas etc. If specially fit things are hard to catch - thats fine. Force recons are designed for the purpose and have drawbacks to make up for it Blockade runners are designed for the purpose and have drawbacks to make up for it If Combat fit lumbering battleships are nigh on impossible to catch - then we have an inbalance -and CCP should be dealing with it. SKUNK PS The only time i fly nano is a) to bump b) to chase down the annoying intys who sit at 250km orbiting the gate. They dont like a cynabal up em
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Matrix Skye LeSkunk, you're full of it. i was decloaked in about 5 seconds when i tried this in low sec. not only that but i was bumped out of alignment all before my bs had a chance to reach speed to warp. you're delibirately lying and exeggerating who knows for what reasons. prolly to get this banned since you've just become bitter after the privateers nerf for griefing in high sec. first, this isnt a 'trick'. the gatecampers are bitter because theyre not killin EVERYTHING anymore. second, it takes skill from both, pilot doing it and pilot trying to counter it, as i found out myself. LOL i normally ignore your posts but here you are bragging about being a massive failcake? ROFL SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Tzar'rim Originally by: Le Skunk In fact, this trick actualy works BETTER if you have crap skills which make the duration of the mwd burst less SKUNK This makes no sense Your correct I was thinking of afterburners boost duration. The rest of my argument stands. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 11:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Le Skunk LOL i normally ignore your posts but here you are bragging about being a massive failcake? ROFL SKUNK im the massive failcake yet you're the one crying about not being able to catch players in your gatecamp. nice job there here, i'll regurgitate some of your own vomit: LEARN TO ADAPT. as i said, it takes skills. just because you dont have them doesnt mean this needs nerfing. BTW, isnt it ironic how you accused players of massive whinage during your war abuse days and now that the tables are turned you defend your bitter-sweet tears? LOL you cant even do the cloak warp trick which i have pulled off succesfull about 500 times - coming up against the best camps in the game. You should stick to forum trolling as you obvioulsy have no skill in game Oh im sorry ... I humilated you SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:01:00 - [16] Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 12:01:49 Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Le Skunk Oh im sorry ... I humilated you you mean i dont do this all by myself? gimme some credit skunky boy LOL I note your not being all mouthy any more and are nowtrying to be self depreciating - a clear sign of you being gutted thats Ive made a fool out of you and trying to take some of the sting out of it. It wont work though - Your failure to cloak mwd (which consists of the following 'skillfull' steps lest we forget) CLICK F1 F2 F2 CLICK Will forever haunt you as the failcake troll who cant hit three buttons succesfully. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:12:00 - [17] Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 12:12:36 Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Le Skunk LOL I note your not being all mouthy any more and are nowtrying to be self depreciating - a clear sign of you being gutted thats Ive made a fool out of you and trying to take some of the sting out of it. It wont work though - Your failure to cloak mwd (which consists of the following 'skillfull' steps lest we forget) CLICK F1 F2 F2 CLICK Will forever haunt you as the failcake troll who cant hit three buttons succesfully. SKUNK yes, unlike camping a gate which is what (1)sit on your ass (2)wait for ship to spawn (3)f1-f8 (4)repeat 1 here's me being a little mouthy: ADAPT! USE YOUR BRAIN! LEARN TO PILOT YOUR INTY MANUALLY! stop asking ccp to spoon feed you the game! Yawn - I honestly didnt read ANY of your post. Im sure it was highly exciting and you desperatly try to score some points, cry rat, laxy, etcetcetc Im too busy laughing at the massive in game failure you are, and now how you chose to try to out troll me and your gettgin your ass smacked. CLICK- F1... LOL failcake SKUNK EDIT - come on - back to the other thread - your getting a pasting there to. BTW im not even gonna read what you say :) Just humiliated you some more.
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:15:00 - [18] Right now matrix sky is typing lazy cry rat or something so ill post the put down now to save time click-f1-f2-f2.. failcake forum troll . **** pilot etc SKUNK "outtrolling the troll"
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:18:00 - [19] Originally by: Matrix Skye wow i musta really ****ed you off TLDR Your still biting though.. keep it up. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 12:22:00 - [20] Ahh hes finaly realised im pulling his levers and stopped posting I was enjoying that SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 15:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Le Skunk Ahh hes finaly realised im pulling his levers and stopped posting I was enjoying that SKUNK no, not really. the problem is reasoning with you is like reasoning with an 8-year-old boy who chooses to cover his ears and scream: Originally by: Le Skunk LALALALALALALA!!! I CANT HEAR YOU!!! LALALALALALA! I CANT HEAR 'CAUSE I'M COVERING MY EARS!! LALALALA and quite frankly i know im beginning to ** you off badly and dont want to get this thread locked cause it's fun watching you silly crybabies cry, so i'll chill out. DIDNT READ THIS POST BTW Cry rats la la la.. Come on keep up the posting. MAybe if you keep posting youll be able to hit 4 buttons in a row without***ing it up Please post some more Im waiting. I know I can bait you out of your silences now :) Fail pilot - fail troll. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 16:02:00 - [22] Looks like the matrix tantrum troll has retreated from this thread and into the muffin thread where he feels more secure. This thread contains evidence of his utternubbness you see - as he admits he cannot hit 4 keys in a row without falling out of his chair. Please matrix, dont give up yet.... SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 18:26:00 - [23] This thread needs to be kept alive Its the thread where the tantrum troll Matrix Sky admits to being so terrfied of blinkys that he is not able to hit four keys in a row without hiding under the table. the thread he vacated in humiliation after trolling it for three weeks once i decided to turn my gaze upon him. Its a victory for the common man, who just want to get along and discuss the game without being trolled from alts, and a testementt my fearsome forum kung fu. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 18:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Matrix Skye i must have ****ed you off good to have you this bent out of shape welcome to the other side of grief. enjoy Im activly encouragin you to post. Im pushing you buttons left and right. Ive never griefed anyone in game, but damn im enjoying griefing you in the forums :) Maybe there is a macro out there which will simulate the hitting of four keys for you eh? Wouldnt that be nice Smile - everyones watching you..... SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 19:05:00 - [25] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Boknamar I think honorable mention is also deserved for tantrum trolls NightmareX and lecrotta who tirelessly kept this thread alive through six pages of smack that had nothing at all to do with the topic. lets not forget le skunk for his hard work and dedication. nothing accomplished but one hell of a try, poor cry rat worked so hard too :(. LOL you like posting in this thread becuase you dont feel confused about whether or not im manipulating you to post/not post. Your feeling so confident you even brought out the fresh and witty "cry rat" line again. LOL Interstingly ive noticed after i criticised you about using all capital letters in your bizare make believe conversations with me, you are not using them AT ALL any more.. PEW PEW - messing with your head SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 19:12:00 - [26] Originally by: NightmareX For me, the words 'Cry Rat' means nothing to me, because that's something he have found out to tell, and he have ubermegawtf failed to tell what that is, so just let him tell us something that doesn't mean anything Oh its like a rhyme on the word Pirate, but signifying the its someone crying. Its kind of like when you see very small children rhyming things with the word "poo" or "pee" then wetting themselves. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 19:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Le Skunk Oh its like a rhyme on the word Pirate, but signifying the its someone crying. Its kind of like when you see very small children rhyming things with the word "poo" or "pee" then wetting themselves. SKUNK no dummy! you funny hahaha! you cry rat, silly. cryrat get it? your silly, le skunk :) ok ok. now i like you too and i also like nitmareX becas we actually know what poo and pee is and sometimes we wet ourselves but ok we can be friends now but only becase you really didnt mean to say those mean thingies to me ok? luv you buhbai. ULTIMATE WIN Ive made you troll yourself. /me takes a bow That ladies and gentleman, is how you deal with a troll. Carry on. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 19:57:00 - [28] Originally by: oilio So what we have here is a thread where Le Skunk massively overstates the "problem", and exaggerates everything. Have you REALLY tried the MWD-followed-by-cloak thing 500 times man? Really? Nooooo, you're a liar, but this is good. People reading your post know that you're lying. Your lies throw your other arguments (which are gross exaggerations) further into doubt. It's unlikely that CCP see it your way, and following your posts, I doubt that many others will either. You stink of failure. Return to your gatecamp, stick your thumb back up your arse and cry the tears of a failed liar. You aren't achieving anything here. Ive done it 9 times today already... work the maths out. Ive lived in low sec for a year mate :) Your incomprehension about how easy it is to do and how difficult it is to counter shows how utterly out of touch you are - sat in high sec posting with your alt for fear of "retaliation" by the nasty people. If you got out of high sec you might have an idea :) Oh and ive stated many times CCP wont deal with it - I just abuse it every day and encourage people to petition when i shoot past there camps. SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 20:08:00 - [29] Originally by: NightmareX Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: NightmareX Oh oh, look, another megafail alt who think he knows much lol I KNOW!!1 HAHAHA he dont no he idiot not you or me or le shrunk. we know pvp he is idiot hahahahahahahahahahahahaha we pvp every time we win even le krunk know he won we won ahahahahahahaha ask les kunt know dis hahaha tell him i rock your face hahahaha he cant touch us right mightmareX? hahaha he looke lika idiot not you and me ahahahahaha Can i know what extremely dangerous drugs you are on please? Hes still reeling from his ass whacking earlier SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 20:11:00 - [30] Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 20:11:16 Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: NightmareX Can i know what extremely dangerous drugs you are on please? It's called inhaling stupidity from forum idiots. You wouldn't know about it because you and Le Skunk are not inhalers. You're the product. :( you should go back into poo poo pants mode again. Your not interesting during your 'serious' moments (well apart from the time you admited you are so terrifed when you jump into a camp you cannot push four keys in a row succesfull :) You should get some pvp experience, then your hands might not tremble so much if someone is sat blinking at you :) SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 20:21:00 - [31] Edited by: Le Skunk on 20/06/2008 20:21:51 Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: Le Skunk Originally by: Matrix Skye Originally by: NightmareX Can i know what extremely dangerous drugs you are on please? It's called inhaling stupidity from forum idiots. You wouldn't know about it because you and Le Skunk are not inhalers. You're the product. :( you should go back into poo poo pants mode again. Your not interesting during your 'serious' moments (well apart from the time you admited you are so terrifed when you jump into a camp you cannot push four keys in a row succesfull :) You should get some pvp experience, then your hands might not tremble so much if someone is sat blinking at you :) SKUNK Yawn, this will be a waste me knowing it's a blunt lie, but read the yellow and show us all where I admitted to this. I won't hold my breath on this one . What the matter - the truth hurts... shaky hands Now the forums see the reason why you troll the 'beastly piewats' threads. Your terrified of them :) Mate its just a game - you dont have to be scared IRL SKUNK
Le Skunk Low Sec Liberators	Posted - 2008.06.20 20:32:00 - [32] Originally by: Matrix Skye Yes. I'm terrified. Well at least your admitting it now. Dosent that feel better SKUNK

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